Monday, November 26, 2012

Jenelle Uses Heroin Says Ex-Friend:

A lot has happened this past week in the world of Jenelle Evans. She got engaged to her new boyfriend of only a few months Courtland Rogers (who allegedly totaled Jenelle's car over the weekend.). She also wound up in the hospital for what she says is a problem with an ovarian cyst. She claims that she needs surgery and that is why she is in the hospital for a while. 


Over the past few days rumors have been flying about Jenelle being in the hospital due to a drug overdose and while I normally take these claims with a grain of salt it's overwhelming the number of people coming forward about it. A lot of people close to Jenelle and Courtland are claiming that the two are on Heroin.

Last week during Jenelle's live chat on ustream.com during the new episode of Teen Mom (pictured above) she looked very thin and exhausted. She said that she had been up the night before playing video games and that is why the two were so tired. Their behavior during the chat session was a bit odd. It was hard to understand them at times. Courtland was eyeing the camera as he open mouth kissed Jenelle constantly. The chat was filled with fans telling them that they looked high. Which honestly...they did. 

Here is a screen shot taken from twitter of Jenelle's ex best friend Allison talking about Jenelle doing Heroin.
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Here is a rather random tweet from someone claiming to be in the hospital room next door to Jenelle's. This is one that you really can't believe 100% since we don't know this person at all, but interesting none the less. 


Blast from the past Kieffer Delp's mother basically admitting to Jenelle and Kieffer using heroin.


Now for the most compelling screen shots I found on the topic. A post by Courtland's "baby mama's" sister. She explains that Taylor (Courtland's "baby mama") doesn't want their daughter around him or Jenelle because of their drug use. In particular the heroin:



She also says at the end there that Courtland referred to Jenelle as "Teen Mom" and not her actual name which disturbs me quite a bit. Whether or not Jenelle is actually on hard drugs is still to be determined but I do find it odd that so many people would be saying it all at the same time. I've also been saying for a few weeks now that Jenelle doesn't look quite right. She is too thin and she looks sick. She has been in and out of the hospital for problems with ovarian cysts.. (that is what she says anyway) so who knows. Whatever is going on, I hope they get help and get healthy. 

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  1. It's called a bandwaggon. People jump on them. She was stoned that night there is not doubt about that but she was stoned on weed. People are just stupid.

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    1. That was not just weed. That wasn't even weed and alcohol. That was most definitely the reactions to harder drugs.

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    2. I'm sure it was smarty pants. I'm glad you've obviously never smoked enough weed to do that or had to watch someone else to that to themselves but I have so shut up. Is it possible she's doing something else. Of course it is. It is definite?? Absolutely not. Take it from someone who has known people was were severvely addicted to weed. It was pretty clear that she was super stoned, on weed.

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    3. why do you have to be so rude @9:53? you don't know for definite if it was just weed either, smarty pants..

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    4. Hey "smarty pants" you can't get addicted to weed physically like hard drugs and to get so high that you're acting like she was you'd have to smoke an unrealistic amount..get your facts straight before you try to make someone look dumb.

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    5. you can in fact get addicted to weed, though. you can get addicted to weed, sex, plenty of things. she's doing more than weed.

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    6. I guess the rudeness was uncalled for so i'll say sorry for that. This is just outrageously annoying. You CAN smoke that much weed. I have smoked that much weed. I will never understand why it was appealing to me or anyone else to get myself like that but I did. I have seen videos of myself acting almost exactly like she was in that ustream video. Fucked up speech droopy eyes flat out odd behavior jumping from topic to topic. Yes. It is very possible and happens all the time. Like I said I am glad you have never done it or had to see it but that doesn't make it less real. As 12:25 said you can become mentally and physically adicted to anything. Is it less likely with pot yeah. Some people smoke pot for years and stop in a day but jenelle obviously has a strong addicttion to it. And I love how you tell me to get my facts straight when there are no facts . Which is my whole point. You insist that thee is no possible way for weed to make her act like that when there is. I never said there's no way something else couldn't make her act like that. You're the one speaking in facts that can't be proven. Not me.

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    7. Although I think we can all agree that no matter what she was high on bitch needs help. There is no excuse for being that messed up on anything ever.

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    8. I'm the anon from 8:28 and this is the first time I've come back to comment.

      You're right, it's not a define that she's on anything harder than weed, but I would think it's more likely that, given what we know of her, she's on something other than just weed. Maybe she's not and I'm wrong. Maybe she did just smoke a shitload of pot and then went on the video stream. Who knows.

      For the record, not that it's any of your business or that you would know this at all from my comments, but I have smoked weed before, and my older sister has been addicted to drugs my entire life. I've seen people high on a metric fuckload of marijuana, and I've seen people who were high on almost any kind of drug you can imagine. I unfortunately had to grow up around it. As you said, knowing these things doesn't put us any closer to figuring out what Jenelle is on. Maybe we're both wrong and she really was just exhausted from staying up all night, but regardless, comments about anything beyond Jenelle's use of drugs (especially comments about what other people may or may not experience in their own lives outside the internet) are not appropriate and not polite.

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    9. Wish I could edit that. Comments about anything beyond what the article is about, not just Jenelle's drug use.

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  2. If you ever watch Rehab with Dr. Drew this season, there is a guy on there named Michael. I went to high school with him and he's a recovering heroin addict. Him as well as a ton of his friends became addicted to heroin. They were all popular, good looking and the athletes with bright futures ahead of them. (He was in college in SC and had to come home to NJ because of his addiction). They were able to hide it well without people really knowing. The other night, a senior in my high school just overdosed from heroin. I didn't know him since i graduated a few years prior, but again, i've heard from those that knew him that he was able to hide his drug use. Heroin is so scary and addictive. I wouldn't doubt that Jenelle is in heroin, she looks like it and seems to be able to hide it from the media and such. I pray that if she is that she comes clean but heroin is so addictive and can lead to death so quickly.

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  3. Someone who just smokes weed would not look that messed up. Unless you are blind you can tell she is into much harder drugs. No one gets cysts that much. And if they did, the doctors would most likely take out her ovaries.

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    1. I can back this up. Sufferer of an illness that comes with ovarian cysts(and mine are blood filled) here for 2 years now waiting on my 3rd surgery. She IS correct in saying that they won't typically operate unless it is a HUGE cyst. They could, but it wouldn't be likely. You are also correct, they would likely remove at least one ovary. Sometimes cysts tend to stick to one side.

      A transvaginal ultrasound can pick up a big cyst absolutely. Smaller ones are more unlikely. CT or an MRI can pick up if a blood filled cyst has ruptured. I'm not a doctor so I don't know how they are with picking up any type of cyst. All I can say is I've had more of those things than I could count, they've hardly ever seen anything wrong with a CT.

      As for them coming back that frequently, it IS possible, but unlikely. My return rate is insanely rapid(however my illness isn't just ovarian cysts it has other elements to it and it isn't the cysts that return that rapid necessarily it is another element though I have had cysts return quick enough for it to be uncommon), and the reason we have so much trouble treating it is because my case in particular is hard to treat(I do not have cancer, but think in the sense that not two cases of cancer are alike)

      I can also say that I am a chronic pain patient, have passed every single drug test(urine monthly, blood at least 4 times a year is the legal is the minimum requirement for chronic pain requiring medication in my state, if you require injections it isn't that strict. You can't walk into a pain management doctor in this state and say "Ouch my back hurts give me some pills" you have to have tons of evidence and be recommended by a physician that has treated you for a certain amount of time and has operated or assisted in operation on you. It varies from state to state, so I have NO idea of the laws concerning that where Jenelle is). My record is clean besides not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. I never run out of my meds early, and we started with over the counter and did trial and error. Never done any drug besides that I'm a smoker(but Camel filters going through a pack every 3 or 4 days, not weed or anything else) which I'm aware is horrible and need to quit but that is besides the point. I also do not drink alcohol. I'm not perfect by any means but do you see my point?? My record is clean, and I've never given anybody treating me a reason not to trust me. Now compare that with Jenelle who has drug convictions along with possible "drug seeking behavior" in the medical community, has not proven to be trustworthy, and I'm just going to take a shot in the dark and wouldn't be likely to pass a urine test she didn't see coming. So that being said....

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    2. She has said she is prescribed hydrocodone for ovarian cysts. Unlikely. Only time I got any narcotic for that was going home from a huge blood filled cyst rupturing(and I may have had 1 refill and it was your standard 30 pills and not a ridiculously high dose). The other time I was given it for a cyst was when they found a tennis ball sized one on my right ovary, the doctor wanted to operate in like, a couple of hours(and even though I've been put under I am TERRIFIED of anesthesia so only having 2 hours notice I was freaking out) so they sent me for blood work and I was shaking so badly a nurse offered me a glass of water(I don't know what she was thinking she knew I was having it) and when I got downstairs to check in the lady finally noticed I was drinking water, asked how much I had(which was maybe half a water bottle), and they didn't want to risk putting me under having just had more than a sip of water. It was a Friday, I was just coming from an appointment so I wasn't in the ER and it wasn't life or death so she DID write s script and put me on the schedule for first thing Monday. Never been prescribed a narcotic any other time for ovarian cysts alone.(but this could also depend on the state, the doctor, and the individual) I went into pain management for another element of my illness. I don't bother going to the ER unless I am dying, I only deal with who treats me regularly. Because EVEN WITH MY RECORD, they look at me and go "Yeah okay, here is Toradol(a strong ibuprofen really)".

      That being said, girls like Jenelle piss me the fuck off. People like her always popping up with different medical emergencies leaving them in pain are the reason I have to get dirty looks and get labeled as a drug addict when I've never done anything to deserve that name. It is why the rules tighten(Example, my medicine for pain along with a couple of other medications that couldn't get you high at all got stolen. Twice this year. I have a police report but I didn't ask for an early refill or more medicine, I just had to tough it out until my next refill date. I didn't steal somebody elses, buy from a dealer, OR go to the ER complaining about it. I didn't even give the police reports to my doctor until months later to ask his advice on protecting it better. If there were not people like that(smoke all the weed you want, just live prescriptions out of it so those of us who actually need the help can get it quicker and if an emergency arises). I can PROMISE you she is not in THAT much pain from ovarian cysts that are not big enough to operate on, and if a smaller one bursts, you might feel like minor cramping that can be solved with Advil rapid release.(Again, it depends on the person and their body)

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    3. A real sufferer(for the last time)November 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM

      And just to throw it in there(I try to be a nice person), I wouldn't want any girl to deal with what I do. Ovarian cysts can be a warning sign, so I have sent messages her way urging her to get checked out, even when her phone number got posted I sent texts urging her to get checked out for it and provided links with more info.(I'm pretty boring lol)

      I wonder if she will say she has it at any point since she comes up with a new excuse every week. Here is a hint: Said illness starts with "E" and is classified in 4 stages. My situation is unlikely and very rare, but possible. You usually see it in more minor forms. You have to be SURGICALLY diagnosed. I have all my surgical photos to back me up with all my info on them.

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    4. I'm sorry you have so many medical problems. I am surprised that you've only been given pain medication a couple of times though, IMO it's very unfair that you be expected to just deal with horrible pain like that when there are medications available that can help you. I have endometriosis and I have constant pain everyday, but any time that I had completely unbearable pain (like to the point of being unable to walk and vomiting from the pain) and had to go the ER I've been given pain medication.

      I'm guessing you were referring to endo in your last comment? I have a pretty gnarly case of it to the point where it's grown on my intestines. I agree with you, if she's getting cysts so often then it certainly could not hurt to get a lap done.

      I hope your health improves! I know it's a constant struggle but there is hope. Stay strong.

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  4. She is DEFINITELY on opiates. Be it Heroin or Percoset or Opana etc etc. It's completely clear just by her eyes. Anyone who has ever been or been around someone on this junk knows your pupils constrict to a pin point and your look like shit. Look at those pics above. Weed doesn't make you look like that.

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    1. Totally agree with you...I am a recovering addict, and that is EXACTLY what someone looks like on opiates... Constricted pupils, raspy voice, heavy eyes, craving tobacco... yeah opiates.

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    2. Both are completely right. It took one glance at her eyes. I'm 100% convinced. If you know what you're looking for you can spot it a mile away.

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  5. I love how everyone is saying she is "definitely" on something. No, you don't know anything for sure. And people who keep pressing something they don't know for sure over and over again is what puts people over the limit. This blog has posted several times how fans of the show should support Amber because no one should be in this belittling position, but here's the same people pushing Jenelle to be another statistic, shame on you.

    She's having surgery on hr cysts, so obviously the doctors have realized there is a problem and working on fixing it. She easily could be on strong pain meds (as prescribed) which do give you that spaced out look, and can cause massive weight loss even taken correctly. Combine that with some weed and maybe alcohol, and there you go.

    As for the girl from the hospital, no doctor would have told her what was going on with another patient, or had announced Jenelle's condition next to her, or loud enough that she could hear her. I'm calling bull on that.

    Long story short, no one knows for sure. Adding fuel to the fire is going to put Jenelle in a very bad place, something that no one deserves. For her sake, and Jace's, please don't talk like something is fact when it's not. She obviously needs help, not attacks.

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    1. THANK YOU!!!!!!! It's so nice to see someone else use their brain instead of just jumping on the bandwaggon!!!!!! These people are thinking less than Jenelle is! Yes, she is taking pills. Because her ovaries fucking hurt! How can people fault her for taking pain pills when she is in pain! They obviously don't know anything if it is "obvious" to them that she's on hard drugs.

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    2. Please read comments from "a real sufferer" above. I never jumped to conclusions. Before I put my opinion out there she gave enough detail about her condition and based on personal experience, I called bullshit on some said info when she just kept giving more detail and digging herself deeper. However, I never said she does not have ovarian cysts. She very likely may. Also, I have been prescribed same medication she has claimed to have a prescription for(one of them anyway), was NEVER that out of it.

      And I'm just going to throw this out there I don't know the facts on this and I have other things to do today. 1)Has she ever said her cysts were blood filled?? 2)She has said she has the deal in her arm for birth control. Do you get REGULAR menstrual cycles at all with that?? If the answers are 1)Yes and 2)No, you can say she is lying about SOMETHING.

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    3. Please don't attack me. My comments weren't directed to you, so don't take them personally. I was upset at the writer of the blog who has been pro-Amber this whole time saying she needs support, yet is posting this blog as if it is fact. She claimed that Amber would not be as bad off if people weren't so negative and left her alone, yet is going out of her way to attack Jenelle and send her to the same place, its not right.

      Also, drugs affect everyone differently. Just because you reacted one way, doesn't mean Jenelle will too. I also have the Implanon birth control (in the arm) and I have regular monthly cycles, so I'm not sure where that argument came from. Everyone is different, she can have this reaction to her condition even if you didn't. And regardless, she needs help in some way or another, and she's not going to get it from people attacking for her litarally everything. If she is in the hospital for something more, she's clearly admitting something is wrong and doing something about it. Let's leave it at that. Good for her.

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    4. 3:29. The implanon can vary. Personally I bleed like crazy for 2 months before I got mine taken out but my sister kept having periods like normal. Then there's people who stop having them all together. There's no way of knowing.

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    5. I in no way at all have attacked Jenelle with this post. I also in no way stated that she was on heroin as a fact. Did you even read what I wrote? This is a compilation of evidence pointing to her possibly being addicted to Heroin. At the end I stated that I hope she gets help and gets healthy. There is also a big difference between Jenelle and Amber. Jenelle has no problem putting her entire life on the internet for people to talk about. Amber has stayed away from it. Amber was severely harassed in her home town and had her home and car vandalized. (Which I updated people about just like any other Teen Mom) Look where Amber is now. Prison. Jenelle is headed in that direction (or death) if she is on drugs like this. I wish nothing but the best for her and I always have.

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  6. OMG you guys are certifiably naive if you think any Dr is going to prescribe her something that strong for ovarian cysts! I had 2 fucking c-sections and I NEVER looked that drugged. I will never ever understand all these people that stand up for Jenelle. She is nothing but a bad choice waiting to happen. Has she ever made a good decision?

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    1. I got 750 mg vicodin for a sprained toe. When I asked not to get it. Yeah. A doctor would do it.

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    2. no u got a 7.5 mg of hydrocodone and 750mg of aspirin the highest mg of vicodin(hydrocodone is 10)

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  7. She either has something from that is causing her to lose weight in her face or she's on something heavy, like heroin or crank. When your face thins out and appears longer it's a sign of something wrong, doesn't mean drugs, but surely whatever it is, it's serious.

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  8. Everyone's being so harsh, stop and think...maybe she's not on hard drugs and is actually REALLY sick..she could have cancer or something for all we know...sudden weight loss, paleness, sunken eyes, coughing, weakness..sounds like my dad when he got diagnosed 4 months before cancer took his life..don't be so quick to hatefully judge people or assume the worst on their part..

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  9. Seriously, weed does not make you look like that. I know plenty of people who smoke on a daily basis and do not look as bad as she does. I also happen to be a nurse and I work in a drug rehab facility. People who do harder drugs such as heroin, meth, and opiates look the way she does. I also read somewhere that she has been buying Suboxone, a pharmaceutical drug used to help people who withdraw from heroin. Now I know you shouldn't believe everything you read but pictures don't lie and clearly something is wrong. This girl needs serious help before she winds up dead.

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  10. I almost forgot. If she is at a hospital to detox that tweet from that girl may be true. When you detox at a hospital it is usually a separate unit away from the medical units and unfortunately no matter how hard doctors and nurses try and protect patient privacy, when your on a detox unit every other patient on that unit will know why you are there.

    I honestly hope she is there for cysts because at the end of the day her son needs his mother. I always root for Jenelle to get her life together and be a good mother to her son,

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  11. I obviously cannot say that she is definitely on harder drugs than weed or whatever, because obviously I am not jenelle so I don't know. BUT. How long as jenelle been smoking weed? She was on tv claiming she cannot not smoke weed, broke her parole because she can't stay clean etc etc... But she did not look anything like she does at the moment. She looks like death. She has always been slim, and she has lost a lot of weight recently. Her face is all sunken in & her eyes are sunken, glassy & her pupils are tiny. That to me, says she is doing more than pot. We have all seen her smoking weed looking a hell of a lot healthier.
    As for cysts, I don't know, she seems to have a LOT of problems with them, as someone said above, they would just remove her ovaries if it was that bad (which maybe the should so she can't have more kids!)
    I dunno, I can't say for sure. But she seems to be going downhill and fast, it would not at all surprise me if she was taking harder drugs.

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  12. heres a thought.. we can ask her to post pics of her stiches or staples or whatever when she is out of the hospital.. if she really is having surgery there will be a hole in her. sounds to me like she always has something "wrong" with her to get pain meds.. like oxys.. they are very close to heroin so maybe she is trying to get off heroin and wanted to detox a different way so no one will notice? who knows. just my thought!

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    1. Why the hell should she have to prove anything to you? Besides she said the doctors are thinking about surgery. Not tha she is for sure having it.

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    2. i couldnt honestly care less about this.. just love hearing the rumors and stories about her.. i dont care if she proves anything because frankly i just dont care.. calm down a little. itll be okay!

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    3. You care so little you want to ask her to post surgery pictures. Riiiiiiight.

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  13. I cant remember if it was her 16&p episode or one of the first season Teen mom ones, she is crying on the bed and she has her keys in her hands... on the keychain is a Narcotics Anonymous keychain... So if she claims MJ is not a narcotic, she obviously has a past with something.

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  14. comimg from an addict of opiates and weed... its the opiates that are making her look that way...

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  15. She couldnt close her bathroom door at the least?!

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  16. i have cysts all the time too. but i've never been prescribed narcotics for them. hell last time i had one along with kidney stones i was told to take extra strength tylenol. most of the time they go away on their own but there's a chance you will need surgery. but as much as she lies and bs's, i don't believe anything she says. but in my experiences weed has never made me look like that, and pills have never made me look like that. so she probably is on something harder.

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  17. Yes, no one can actually say that she is "for sure" on something, but her behavior on the video from the other night was classic opiate abuse. Her pupils were extremely constricted, her voice was raspy, and she looked as if she was going to nod off. Kieffer has admitted to being a heroin addict so it isn't a far strecth that she would have been introduced to it and sucked into the drug. Not to mention several people around her have backed up the story.

    Also, has anyone else wondered why Courtland misses her so much? If she was in the hospital he could visit her...not saying that her story is bull, but there's gotta be more to it. I don't blame her for not sharing more about it with the public, but Jenelle tends to air her laundry A LOT, so why not now? if she WERE in detox he couldn't visit her...just sayin...(props to her if she were in detox too, it's not easy)

    either way, it's all just speculation.

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  18. Those are also signs of smoking a lot of weed. I don't think anyones saying she's for sure not on anthing harder but everyone keeps saying she is. 100% for sure on hard drugs. Yeah she was acting different but maybe we've just never seen her that high. It's also possible the cysts have gotten so bad she could be in the icu. A lot of times they limit visitors there.

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  19. I've never heard of someone being in ICU for a cyst. Usually your in ICU when your dying or close to death.

    Anyone else notice her twitter has been silent for 2 days? There are only two places in a hospital where a patient can't have a cell phone: Mental Health and Detox. Anyone that followes her on twitter knows she can't get enough of her damn IPhone and 90% of the time that's where she updates her twitter from. So my guess if she's truely in the hospital shes either in Mental Health or Detox

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    1. That's not true, if she's on a heart monitor, you can't use a cell phone because it messes with the machine.

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    2. Actually, that's not true at all. I'm a cardiac nurse, and my patient's on tele use their cell phones all the time.
      I agree w/the poster above you. We only take personal belongings away from people who have an EDO. And that means they are a harm to themselves or others, and can not sign themselves out of the hospital.
      I really think she's there for mental health issues.

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    3. Really because I'm on a heart monitor frequently and I'm told to not use a cell phone with it because it causes to machine to flat line even when you're perfectly fine. I've had it happen to me before.

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    4. It doesn't matter if her doctor made a public statement and she posted her paper work online. You jackels would still decend on her and call her a liar. And while it's unlikely a cyst would put her in the icu hers are really really bad. Maybe they got infected or something. Idk. Or maybe she just doesn't get reception at the hospital. I know I never can.

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  20. IDK what they are telling you, or if they have some old out-dated machines, but every one of my patient's is on tele, and 95% of them have cell phones.
    But hey, you must know more then me, lol, I don't deal w/it every day or anything.

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    1. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound condescending with my response, I was actually really confused because my doctors did tell me that, and my heart machine went crazy all the time (when my heart itself was fine) so it confused me to hear that it's not really the case. I wonder what was wrong then.

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    2. Oh, then I'm sorry for getting snarky w/you. :)

      IDK. I can only think they must have old machines? It was a little box w/5 wires that went to 5 different points on your chest right?

      It's possible it could mess up a 12-lead EKG, I guess...

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  21. Have yu ever noticed some stuff duffy says abt jenelle is tru like with the pix and stuff so maybe he is right abt the herion not hating. or anything ijust think she needs major help nd the ppl around. her keep enabling her or as barbs in some places dnt care what happens to her is not the way this girl neds some serious. help and i suffer from bipolar,anxiety ,nd a few other illnesses nd i act nothing like that..

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  22. Just becuase she's prescribed the meds doesn't mean she's not abusing them...

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  23. P;eople need to back the hell off this girl. U sure can get addicted to weed hard I've seen it . And nobody knows wth they r doing. She's in the limelight so rumors r gonna fly if they do have a problem id hope shed get her shit together and get better but shell need helpshe can't do it on her own. And the baby mama drama ain't nothing new.it happens in them situations all the time. But being careful with her child is something I completely understand. Bottom line leave her alone. If she ain't addicted to drugs after all the badgering and shit talking she may be I mean we all know she got issues let her live her life. Hopefully shell grow up and be there for Jace someday

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  24. I've been in hospital with cysts abd had surgery and stayed overnights cuz of them. Its possible and its very painful

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